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Judy Denver



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 09, 2011 11:06 pm    Post subject: fast marathon course for the spring? Reply with quote

I am registered for Tucson this weekend, which was to be an attempt to get a BQ time for 2013. But after some godawful bug completely took me out all last week, I decided against making the trip. Just doesn't seem like a fast marathon would be in the cards since I'm still not at 100%.

So.....that means I'm in the market for a marathon on a fast course sometime before Boston registration opens up next September. YIKES! (Never mind that this also means I need to start thinking about running and doing speedwork.) Anyhoo, here's a list of possibilities I've amassed. Thoughts on these as possibly fast courses (I do best on downhill courses)? Any others I should add?

2/19 - Flying Dutchman, AZ (starts on dirt, so not sure how fast this would really be)
3/4 - New Orleans (not counting on this as fast, but since it's on the schedule, I thought I'd record it)
3/18 - Shamrock (running this for my 50-and-DC finale, is it fast?)
3/31 - Yakima Canyon
4/16 - Boston (net downhill course, so it must be fast. Yeah, right)
4/29 - Eugene, OR
5/6 - Colorado (Fort Collins)
5/12 - Provo
5/20 - Sugarloaf (ME)
6/16 - Grandmas

Feedback?
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 09, 2011 11:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ah.. I vote for Grandmas for two reasons. One, it's the only one (besides Boston) that I'm familar with. Two, I'll be there Smile
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 10, 2011 12:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shamrock is fast.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 10, 2011 12:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shamrock and Grandmas if weather cooperates
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 10, 2011 3:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I thought the Flying Dutchman was a great marathon, but I would not classify it as a fast course. From what I remember, the dirt part has a lot of gentle ups and downs. Once you get onto the roads there are a couple of long inclines. Nothing terrible, but you definitely feel a little winded.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 10, 2011 1:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What is that one in SC in February? I will rememberit. Oh yeah, Myrtle Beach. Mirror flat and fast. Some around here have run it. Of course you remeber grandmas and how fast you have to run to get to the post-race festivities.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 10, 2011 2:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There's the Light at the End of the Tunnel in the Seattle area on July 15. It's on a rails-to-trails course from Hyak on Snoqualmie Pass to North Bend, WA. It's ALL down hill, save for a 9 ft. blip at mile 8 (yes, I said "foot" !!!) But since it's railroad grade, it's not that bad on the quads (you probably won't feel it during the race, but may be sore on Monday or Tuesday). That's where I first BQ'd.

Race info:
http://littlemarathon.com/Tunnel/default.asp

My husband and I help put it on, however, there's a chance I'll be out of town that weekend visiting my folks.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 11, 2011 9:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

1/14.....Charleston. Flat/fast and southern charm

Screw MB. They lost me forever with that debacle in 2010.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 11, 2011 10:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

e wrote:
Screw MB. They lost me forever with that debacle in 2010.

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 12, 2011 4:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

How about Bayshore? I recommend it.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 12, 2011 4:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

GregC wrote:
How about Bayshore? I recommend it.


Too late.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 12, 2011 9:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Judy - I think New Orleans is pretty fast. I ran 4:03 there a couple of winters ago on way, way, way less than stellar training (a 12 mile long run). And, I will be there running/racing the half - so I'll be glad to pull you through the last 2-3 miles. You need to run 4:10? correct?
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 13, 2011 4:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

1L wrote:
Judy - I think New Orleans is pretty fast. I ran 4:03 there a couple of winters ago on way, way, way less than stellar training (a 12 mile long run). And, I will be there running/racing the half - so I'll be glad to pull you through the last 2-3 miles. You need to run 4:10? correct?

I beg to differ. It hardly seemed like winter and I hardly found it fast trying to stay ahead of the sag wagon (limo, in my case) Wink
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 13, 2011 4:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Doctor F wrote:
1L wrote:
Judy - I think New Orleans is pretty fast. I ran 4:03 there a couple of winters ago on way, way, way less than stellar training (a 12 mile long run). And, I will be there running/racing the half - so I'll be glad to pull you through the last 2-3 miles. You need to run 4:10? correct?

I beg to differ. It hardly seemed like winter and I hardly found it fast trying to stay ahead of the sag wagon (limo, in my case) Wink


It is all relative my friend (and warm here).
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 15, 2011 5:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Come to Arizona in February - actually our Dutchman was "Lost" not "Flying" - but whatever.

I've done the half a whole bunch of times - got me the AZ age record for the half marathon distance last year and I'll be back again.

Its a much better race than the Arizona Rock and Roll in January.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 15, 2011 11:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

NOLA is flat & fast, but it's a Rock & Roll event so it'll be big & expensive. I'm guessing you should be able to get a good enough corral to log a fast enough time to BQ, but I'd pick a smaller race, personally.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 29, 2011 11:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pocono marathon in Pennsylvania, May 20. Supposedly very fast. Pretty favorable elevation chart:

http://www.poconomarathon.org/courseinfo.html
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